Oppo question

"Mattbob" (mattbob) 12/05/2014 at 08:41 • Filed to: None

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Maybe I am just being pedantic, but does it bother anyone else when people call wheels rims? The rim is just the outer part of the wheel. When you are referring to the whole thing, it is a wheel. You can have a bent rim, but you don't buy just a rim, its the whole wheel (unless you manage to buy just the rim part of a 3 piece wheel)

for reference:

rim 1

rim/

noun

1 .

the upper or outer edge of an object, typically something circular or approximately circular.

thebigbossyboss > Mattbob 12/05/2014 at 08:43

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Nope. Rim is acceptable vernacular. English always be evolving yo!

Mattbob > thebigbossyboss 12/05/2014 at 08:45

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My lawn, you are on it.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > Mattbob 12/05/2014 at 08:45

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It bothers me to no end if I'm honest, but it seems like the dictionary will end up with something like this in a few years

2. A cylinder one can attach a tyre to, typically used on automotive vehicles.

McMike > Mattbob 12/05/2014 at 08:46

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The lip is also a part of the wheel. I will start calling them "lips"

"Yo bro, I really like your lips!"

thebigbossyboss > Mattbob 12/05/2014 at 08:46

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GhostZ > Mattbob 12/05/2014 at 08:46

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For me, Rim is the metal internal, tire is the rubber exterior, and Wheel is the whole package.

Also:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/rim

Definitions 3 4 and 5. The internal part of the rim are the spokes and distinct from the rim.

Mattbob > McMike 12/05/2014 at 08:47

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Mattbob > GhostZ 12/05/2014 at 08:48

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you just said the spokes are part of the rim, but not the rim..... This is why this is wrong. The spokes are part of the WHEEL but not the rim. Also, a tire is not part of the wheel. That is just a fact. Also, 3,4,and 5 support my argument that a rim is just the outer edge of the wheel. Maybe not 5, that deals with mules and shit though.

JACU - I've got bonifides. > Mattbob 12/05/2014 at 08:49

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Yeah. I don't like it either, but then I think flat brim caps, even on racecar drivers, are wrong. I eventually just come around to accept the fact that like the english language itself, automotive nomenclature evolves and I can either be continually disturbed by it or just accept it and move on.

Drakkon- Most Glorious and Upright Person of Genius > McMike 12/05/2014 at 08:49

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COTD!!

ttyymmnn > Mattbob 12/05/2014 at 08:50

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As much of a grammarian as I am, I've got to go with bossyboss on this one. Technically, you are correct. But you fight a losing battle. Every year, I cringe when I hear "Deck the halls" when it really should be "Deck the hall". You're not decorating all the hallways in your home, you are decorating the home itself. Of course, since we in America generally don't own a house large enough to be called a hall, it has changed. It drives me nuts, but it's just the way it is.

Drakkon- Most Glorious and Upright Person of Genius > Mattbob 12/05/2014 at 08:50

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FREAKIN!

I'm in the sign business and every sign, no matter what is a 'marquee.' If it lights up it's a 'neon sign'

GUUUH! Shoot me now.

Sweet Trav > Mattbob 12/05/2014 at 08:51

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Nope, I'm in this boat too.

Trim rings are "rims"

Wheels are the whole assembly.

bob and john > Mattbob 12/05/2014 at 08:51

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I dont mind it for cars.

for bicycles however, a lot of wheels are custom made so I hake the difference then

Imirrelephant > Mattbob 12/05/2014 at 08:51

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It's just vernacular. No need to get all wound up about it.

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > Mattbob 12/05/2014 at 08:52

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But rimz, yo!

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > Mattbob 12/05/2014 at 08:52

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Pedantic. Definitely.

Unfortunatly, I tend to have the same trait, and now I cannot unsee.

DAMB YOU MATTBOB :)

Edit: and the rest of this comment section. Bad for the OCD.

Alfalfa > Mattbob 12/05/2014 at 08:52

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Meh. Within each field/hobby, there is a certain vernacular that is accepted for example, many people use the term "alloy wheels" to differentiate basically any other wheel from steelies, but steel is also an alloy. Further, plane people think of "proper" rotary engines as radial engines.

Drakkon- Most Glorious and Upright Person of Genius > Mattbob 12/05/2014 at 08:53

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So if you have forged rims and you bend one, to fix it do you need a rim-job?

macanamera > Mattbob 12/05/2014 at 08:55

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You expect me to believe all those rappers have been wrong this whole time?

Takuro Spirit > Mattbob 12/05/2014 at 08:55

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I ever tell you the story of the man with the Intrepid that wanted a price on rims?

I ran his VIN and it showed the car came with steel wheels.

I asked him if that's what he wanted.

"Naw, man I got WHEELS, I want RIMS!" was his reply.

OK.

macanamera > McMike 12/05/2014 at 08:56

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annddd now I know what I'm saying all day

Mattbob > Imirrelephant 12/05/2014 at 08:56

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To be fair I did note that i realize I may be being pedantic.

Mattbob > JACU - I've got bonifides. 12/05/2014 at 08:57

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goddamned flat brimmed caps. Don't get me started.

McMike > Mattbob 12/05/2014 at 08:57

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Me: "Excuse me sir, but those have to be the biggest lips I have ever seen. How can you live with those on a daily basis? Golly, don't they rub a lot?"

Vehicle owner: (as he releases the pump and walks in my direction) "WTF did you just say?"

I think it's better if we stick with "rims."

thebigbossyboss > Drakkon- Most Glorious and Upright Person of Genius 12/05/2014 at 08:59

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I could actually see why that would be annoying. "123 signs Drakkon here" "Hi Id like my neon sign fixed it broke"

D: "what kind is it"?

Them: "Neon"

D: "Ok...*prepares to blow glass* and show up

Sign is backlight by florescents.

However when someone says "rim" in relation to a vehicle...we can be 99.99999% sure we know what they mean.

Mattbob > Alfalfa 12/05/2014 at 09:00

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There are actually proper rotary engines that look very much like radial engines, it is pretty nuanced. That is probably where the confusion comes there. Taken from wiki:

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Rotary and radial engines look strikingly similar when they are not running and can easily be confused, since both have cylinders arranged radially around a central crankshaft. Unlike the rotary engine, however, radial engines use a conventional rotating crankshaft in a fixed engine block.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > Alfalfa 12/05/2014 at 09:01

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Here's a "fun fact" in Norway wheels made of steel are called stålfelg (Steel wheel), aluminium ones are called Alufelg (alu (short for aluminium) wheel). Sometimes we use the word lettmetalsfelg (light metal wheel) though, and that is everything from aluminium wheels to magnesium wheels.

Roadster Man > Mattbob 12/05/2014 at 09:08

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It bugs me big time. I never correct people because it's common parlance, but when they ask about my new "rims" i say that I love my new "wheels."

Imirrelephant > Mattbob 12/05/2014 at 09:10

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True. I am often a grammar nazi, so I feel your struggle. At least it's Friday!

OPPOsaurus WRX > Mattbob 12/05/2014 at 09:22

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not any more than people saying Porsh. I know its wrong but everyone does it.

Drakkon- Most Glorious and Upright Person of Genius > thebigbossyboss 12/05/2014 at 09:22

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'Rims' east of here (I'm in St Louis) may be more accepted vernacular, but around here, 'rims' come from people who don't have a freaking clue about cars besides where to put the gas so we can go get more beer & hair gel.

thebigbossyboss > Drakkon- Most Glorious and Upright Person of Genius 12/05/2014 at 09:34

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Yeah, there's the regional variation also. I used to live in west africa, if you want to hear english which doesn't sound like english at all.....

jariten1781 > Mattbob 12/05/2014 at 09:38

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I keep it straight when talking but it doesn't bother me when other people call them rims, nor does it bother me when other people call wheel covers hubcaps.

GhostZ > Mattbob 12/05/2014 at 13:48

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I said that I don't consider the spokes different from the rim, but the dictionary does. Everything above "Also" is how I've used it, everything below "also" is this definition I found on the internet.